五年前,他才 25 岁,在第一家公司失败后一无所有。 今天,他在同一家公司里打造了两个估值超过 10 亿美元的业务,但几乎没有人知道他的名字。 他的名字叫 Fred Turner。公司叫 Curative。其保险业务的年度经常性收入(ARR)刚刚突破 10 亿美元。 我第一次支持 Fred 时,他才 21 岁。当时他正在做一家为奶牛提供基因检测的公司。几年后,一切在一夜之间崩塌:因为一份 term sheet(投资意向书)被撤回。实验室没了。债权机构接管公司。对于一位年轻创始人来说,这是残酷的结局。 2019 年新年前夜,我正在度蜜月,他打电话给我,要我的律师去起诉那个撤回投资的机构。我躲在浴室里接的电话。我告诉他不要浪费几年去打官司,因为最甜蜜的报复就是成功。 我当时愿意给他一个月的资金续命。他说贷方会把钱扣走。 于是我告诉他,如果他有一天重新开始做点什么,我会再次支持他。 六周后他打来电话。准备再战。没有商业计划,没有噱头,只是一个被击倒后又爬起来的创始人。 他的想法是败血症检测。他告诉我,美国每年有 28.5 万人因败血症死亡,很多人甚至不知道自己患病,因为检测结果出来得太慢。 我当时认为“新冠病毒”已经到了美国,就问他是否能做病毒检测。他说一家新实验室要拿到牌照需要 4-6 个月。 我开玩笑说,如果“新冠病毒”是一家初创公司,我会押一个超级大的赌注。 但我还是投资了,估值大约 300 万美元。我不知道这会是我人生中最好的投资,还是一次对人类的慈善捐赠,但我觉得这是正确的事。 两周后他说他找到了一个实验室,但必须搬去洛杉矶。结果所谓的“洛杉矶实验室”其实在 San Dimas。我告诉他我完全不知道那在哪儿,但还是让他去。他去了。 然后,全世界封锁了。 Fred 把 Curative 的第一个业务(新冠病毒检测)从 0 做到 14 亿美元收入,只用了 9 个月。数百万次检测,挽救了无数生命。我的第一张支票在一年内回报了大约 80 倍,大部分利润仍留在公司内部。 惊人的投资回报,但他还没完。 在做检测业务期间,他看到了医疗保险体系有多破碎。他没有拿着利润退休,而是再次梭哈,进行彻底重启。 Curative 2.0 —— 一个下一代健康保险公司 —— 用 2.5 年从 0 → 10 亿美元 ARR。本季度公司将实现盈利。 为了维持 Curative 的 A.M. Best 评级并减少股权稀释,公司内部做了一轮小规模融资以增强储备。Fred 自己继续追加投资。Curative 的 CFO Tami 也投入了她自己的钱。 我通过个人和 JAM Fund 总共投资了 4,750 万美元,尽管我最初在 2020 年 2 月的个人投资已经涨了约 400 倍。 这是我人生中唯一一次在如此巨大的成功之后还继续超比例加注。 为什么?因为有些创始人值得一次又一次地支持。而在 1.8 万亿美元的目标市场(TAM)面前,完全有空间再涨 100 倍。 Fred 打造了: • 从 0 → 14 亿美元收入(检测业务) • 从 0 → 10 亿美元 ARR(保险业务) 而且都在同一家公司里完成,在他 30 岁之前。 他曾被击倒,重头再来,并且两次打造了改变世界的东西。 请把这条信息收藏起来:Fred Turner 正在打造一家市值超过 1000 亿美元的公司。现在几乎没有人察觉。 但大家马上就会知道了。 Five years ago he was 25 and left with nothing after his first company failed. Today he’s built two different $1B+ businesses inside the same company, yet almost nobody knows his name. His name is Fred Turner. The company is Curative. The insurance business just crossed $1B ARR. I first backed Fred at 21. He was building a genetic testing company for cows. Years later, everything collapsed overnight when a term sheet was pulled. Lab gone. Debt provider took over. Brutal ending for a young founder. On New Year’s Eve 2019, while I was on my honeymoon, he called asking for my lawyer to sue the investor who walked. I took the call hiding in the bathroom. I told him not to waste years on a lawsuit and that winning is the sweetest revenge. I offered him a month of runway. He said the lender would seize it. So I told him that if he ever started something new, I’d back him again. Six weeks later he called. Ready to try again. No deck. No hype. Just a founder who’d been knocked down and wanted to get back up. His idea was sepsis diagnostics. He told me 285k people die from it every year in the U.S., often without knowing because results take too long. I thought “coronavirus” was already in the U.S. and asked if he could test for it. He said it would take a new lab 4–6 months to get licensed. I joked that if coronavirus were a startup, I’d make a massive bet on it. I backed him anyway at a ~$3M valuation. I didn’t know if it would be the best investment of my life or just a donation to humanity, but it felt right. Two weeks later he said he found a lab and would have to move to LA. Turns out the “LA lab” was actually in San Dimas. I told him I had no idea where that was, but he should move anyway. He did. Then the world shut down. Fred built Curative’s first business, COVID diagnostics, from $0 → $1.4B in 9 months. Millions of tests. Lives saved. My first check returned ~80× within a year, and a majority of the profits stayed in the company. Amazing investment, but he wasn’t done. While running diagnostics, he saw how broken health insurance was. Instead of taking his profits and calling it a day, he bet everything again. A full restart. Curative 2.0, a next gen health insurance company, went from $0 → $1B ARR in 2.5 years. The company becomes profitable this quarter. To maintain Curative’s A.M. Best rating and limit dilution, the internals did a small round to strengthen reserves. Fred reinvested. Curative’s CFO, Tami, invested her own money. I invested $47.5M between personal + JAM Fund, even though my original personal check from Feb 2020 is already up ~400×. It’s the only time I’ve ever invested more than pro rata after a win that big. Why? Because some founders are worth backing again and again. And with a $1.8T TAM, there’s room for another 100×. Fred built: • $0 → $1.4B revenue (diagnostics) • $0 → $1B ARR (insurance) inside the same company by age 30. He got knocked down, started from zero, and built something world changing, twice. Bookmark this: Fred Turner is building a $100B+ company. Almost nobody realizes it yet. They will soon.
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五年前,他才 25 岁,在第一家公司失败后一无所有。
今天,他在同一家公司里打造了两个估值超过 10 亿美元的业务,但几乎没有人知道他的名字。
他的名字叫 Fred Turner。公司叫 Curative。其保险业务的年度经常性收入(ARR)刚刚突破 10 亿美元。
我第一次支持 Fred 时,他才 21 岁。当时他正在做一家为奶牛提供基因检测的公司。几年后,一切在一夜之间崩塌:因为一份 term sheet(投资意向书)被撤回。实验室没了。债权机构接管公司。对于一位年轻创始人来说,这是残酷的结局。
2019 年新年前夜,我正在度蜜月,他打电话给我,要我的律师去起诉那个撤回投资的机构。我躲在浴室里接的电话。我告诉他不要浪费几年去打官司,因为最甜蜜的报复就是成功。
我当时愿意给他一个月的资金续命。他说贷方会把钱扣走。
于是我告诉他,如果他有一天重新开始做点什么,我会再次支持他。
六周后他打来电话。准备再战。没有商业计划,没有噱头,只是一个被击倒后又爬起来的创始人。
他的想法是败血症检测。他告诉我,美国每年有 28.5 万人因败血症死亡,很多人甚至不知道自己患病,因为检测结果出来得太慢。
我当时认为“新冠病毒”已经到了美国,就问他是否能做病毒检测。他说一家新实验室要拿到牌照需要 4-6 个月。
我开玩笑说,如果“新冠病毒”是一家初创公司,我会押一个超级大的赌注。
但我还是投资了,估值大约 300 万美元。我不知道这会是我人生中最好的投资,还是一次对人类的慈善捐赠,但我觉得这是正确的事。
两周后他说他找到了一个实验室,但必须搬去洛杉矶。结果所谓的“洛杉矶实验室”其实在 San Dimas。我告诉他我完全不知道那在哪儿,但还是让他去。他去了。
然后,全世界封锁了。
Fred 把 Curative 的第一个业务(新冠病毒检测)从 0 做到 14 亿美元收入,只用了 9 个月。数百万次检测,挽救了无数生命。我的第一张支票在一年内回报了大约 80 倍,大部分利润仍留在公司内部。
惊人的投资回报,但他还没完。
在做检测业务期间,他看到了医疗保险体系有多破碎。他没有拿着利润退休,而是再次梭哈,进行彻底重启。
Curative 2.0 —— 一个下一代健康保险公司 —— 用 2.5 年从 0 → 10 亿美元 ARR。本季度公司将实现盈利。
为了维持 Curative 的 A.M. Best 评级并减少股权稀释,公司内部做了一轮小规模融资以增强储备。Fred 自己继续追加投资。Curative 的 CFO Tami 也投入了她自己的钱。
我通过个人和 JAM Fund 总共投资了 4,750 万美元,尽管我最初在 2020 年 2 月的个人投资已经涨了约 400 倍。
这是我人生中唯一一次在如此巨大的成功之后还继续超比例加注。
为什么?因为有些创始人值得一次又一次地支持。而在 1.8 万亿美元的目标市场(TAM)面前,完全有空间再涨 100 倍。
Fred 打造了:
- 从 0 → 14 亿美元收入(检测业务)
- 从 0 → 10 亿美元 ARR(保险业务)
而且都在同一家公司里完成,在他 30 岁之前。
他曾被击倒,重头再来,并且两次打造了改变世界的东西。
请把这条信息收藏起来:Fred Turner 正在打造一家市值超过 1000 亿美元的公司。现在几乎没有人察觉。
但大家马上就会知道了。
Five years ago he was 25 and left with nothing after his first company failed.
Today he’s built two different $1B+ businesses inside the same company, yet almost nobody knows his name.
His name is Fred Turner. The company is Curative. The insurance business just crossed $1B ARR.
I first backed Fred at 21. He was building a genetic testing company for cows. Years later, everything collapsed overnight when a term sheet was pulled. Lab gone. Debt provider took over. Brutal ending for a young founder.
On New Year’s Eve 2019, while I was on my honeymoon, he called asking for my lawyer to sue the investor who walked. I took the call hiding in the bathroom. I told him not to waste years on a lawsuit and that winning is the sweetest revenge.
I offered him a month of runway. He said the lender would seize it.
So I told him that if he ever started something new, I’d back him again.
Six weeks later he called. Ready to try again. No deck. No hype. Just a founder who’d been knocked down and wanted to get back up.
His idea was sepsis diagnostics. He told me 285k people die from it every year in the U.S., often without knowing because results take too long.
I thought “coronavirus” was already in the U.S. and asked if he could test for it. He said it would take a new lab 4–6 months to get licensed.
I joked that if coronavirus were a startup, I’d make a massive bet on it.
I backed him anyway at a ~$3M valuation. I didn’t know if it would be the best investment of my life or just a donation to humanity, but it felt right.
Two weeks later he said he found a lab and would have to move to LA. Turns out the “LA lab” was actually in San Dimas. I told him I had no idea where that was, but he should move anyway. He did.
Then the world shut down.
Fred built Curative’s first business, COVID diagnostics, from $0 → $1.4B in 9 months. Millions of tests. Lives saved. My first check returned ~80× within a year, and a majority of the profits stayed in the company.
Amazing investment, but he wasn’t done.
While running diagnostics, he saw how broken health insurance was. Instead of taking his profits and calling it a day, he bet everything again. A full restart.
Curative 2.0, a next gen health insurance company, went from $0 → $1B ARR in 2.5 years. The company becomes profitable this quarter.
To maintain Curative’s A.M. Best rating and limit dilution, the internals did a small round to strengthen reserves. Fred reinvested. Curative’s CFO, Tami, invested her own money.
I invested $47.5M between personal + JAM Fund, even though my original personal check from Feb 2020 is already up ~400×.
It’s the only time I’ve ever invested more than pro rata after a win that big.
Why? Because some founders are worth backing again and again. And with a $1.8T TAM, there’s room for another 100×.
Fred built:
- $0 → $1.4B revenue (diagnostics)
- $0 → $1B ARR (insurance)
inside the same company by age 30.
He got knocked down, started from zero, and built something world changing, twice.
Bookmark this: Fred Turner is building a $100B+ company. Almost nobody realizes it yet.
They will soon.
ABAB AI 解读
1️⃣ 第一层含义:真正的顶级创始人,会在“死亡时刻”暴露能力
Fred Turner 的第一家公司:
- term sheet 被撤回
- 公司瞬间死亡
- 实验室被债权人接管
- 年轻创始人一无所有
这在硅谷语境下叫: “near-death founder moment”(创始人的濒死时刻)
绝大多数年轻创业者在这种情况下会崩溃、转行、永不再创业。
但 Fred 做了什么?
- 想诉讼(愤怒) → 投资人劝他不要
- 明白要放下
- 6 周后重新创业
- 没 deck、没 hype,只剩纯粹的决心
这是硅谷投资人眼中 “真正的连续创业者 DNA”。
2️⃣ 第二层含义:顶级创始人不是“想一个点子”,而是“看到别人看不到的机会”
Fred 第二次创业的方向是:败血症检测(sepsis diagnostics)
这是个:
- 医疗深科技
- 极难
- 高监管
- 高壁垒
- 市场巨大
他选择的不是“互联网小工具”,而是一个真正能救命的行业。
这说明他的认知层级远高于一般创业者。
3️⃣ 第三层含义:伟大公司往往诞生于“外部巨变”
两周后,一个重大事件爆发:COVID-19 来袭。
Fred:
- 迅速 pivot
- 加速建实验室
- 从零开始做新冠检测
- 世界被封锁时,Fred 的公司突然成为核心基础设施。
他把业务从:0 → 14 亿美元(9 个月)
这是硅谷早期公司几乎从未出现过的速度。
这符合硅谷一句经典话:“市场比努力重要,时代比市场重要。”
4️⃣ 第四层含义:优秀创始人不会“赚了钱就走”,而是能二次突破
很多创始人在赚到第一桶金后,会:
- 退出
- 奢侈
- 转行
- 养老
但 Fred 第二次创业后选择:再次梭哈(All-in)
他发现医疗保险体系也有巨大问题,于是:
- 把诊断业务的利润留下
- 再次从零构建新业务
- 2.5 年做到 10 亿 ARR
- 今年即将盈利
这不是普通创业者能做到的。
这叫:SuperFounder(超级创始人)
硅谷极少数人能做到:
- 在同一家公司
- 连续打造两个“独角兽级业务”
- 都在短时间内从 0 → 10 亿级别
这和 Elon Musk 的模式很像:
- 特斯拉(汽车)
- SpaceX(航天)
- Boring(隧道)
- Neuralink(脑机接口)
这种类型的人几乎是天生的。
5️⃣ 第五层含义:为什么投资人愿意在已经赚 400 倍后还继续加注?
投资人写道:“这是我人生中唯一一次在这么大的成功后继续超比例投资。”
原因很简单:他不是在投一家公司,他在投一个人。
硅谷投资界真正相信的是:创始人比业务重要。
只要创始人足够强,业务方向可以不断调整、重建、扩张、迭代。
所以投资人敢重仓,因为他已经验证 Fred 具备:
- 强韧性(第一次失败后重来)
- 极强执行力
- 超快速学习能力
- 大赛道选择能力
- 具备“世界级 CEO 的能力”
这种人,被投一次就足以让基金成功。
6️⃣ 第六层含义:作者在暗示——Curative 会成为 $100B+ 公司
文末说:“Fred Turner 正在打造一家市值超过 1000 亿美元的公司。”
为什么敢这么说?因为:
Curative = “医疗基础设施 × 保险 × 数据 × 病毒检测” 的超级平台
这不是一般 SAAS,也不是一般 fintech。
这是类似:
- UnitedHealth
- Kaiser
- Aetna
- CVS Health
这类“超级医疗巨头”的雏形。
这个市场(TAM)作者写得很清楚:$1.8T(1.8 万亿美元)
只要占 5% 市场,就能成为千亿市值公司。
投资人非常明确地看到了这种潜力。
最终总结:
Fred Turner 的故事,是硅谷顶级创业者的真正写照:从第一次失败到第二次从零出发,在同一家公司内连续打造两个 10 亿级业务。COVID 时代打造 14 亿美元诊断业务后,又在医疗保险领域做出 10 亿 ARR,预计将把 Curative 发展为市值超过 1000 亿美元的公司。投资人对他持续加注,不是在投公司,而是在投一个能改变世界的“超级创始人”。
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- 我想我从未见过一个全球性基础设施业务,能在如此规模下加速得这么快。更夸张的是,这仍然只是早期阶段。 我敢打赌,Starlink 在某个阶段将会每天新增数十万名用户。 Don’t think I’ve ever seen a global infrastructure business accelerate this quickly at this scale. The wild part is it’s still the early days. I would bet Starlink will at one point add hundreds of thousands of new customers per day.Justin Mateen · 2025/12/23
- 是时候让分析师开始建立新的特斯拉预测模型了,把 FSD 和 Optimus 在更远期年份的影响纳入其中。 Time for analysts to start modeling out new Tesla projections that include FSD and Optimus in outer years.Justin Mateen · 2025/12/18
- 一份 300 万美元的收购报价,差点在公司刚起步时就让一家“未来可能成为世代级公司的团队”提前卖掉自己。 在 Whop 创立早期(Whop 是一个高速增长的市场平台,让创作者销售数字产品),几个创始人都很年轻,非常兴奋,也做好了把公司卖给竞争对手的准备。 就在那个周末,来自 Z Fellows 的 @cory 给我打电话,说他们距离签字只有几个小时的时间,问我能不能和他们聊聊。(Whop CEO Steven 后来在 CNBC 的文章中也谈到这件事。) 于是,我们和 @cultured、@czoob3、@jacksharkey11 通了几个小时的电话。我告诉他们,一旦你卖掉公司,你就失去了控制权,而且你余生都会在想:如果当时没有卖,会怎样? 他们听进去了。最终,他们没有出售,而是让 Cory 和我以相同的 300 万美元估值投资进来。 今天,Whop 的价值轨迹已经远远超过当初那份报价的几个数量级,只要他们继续执行,这条路会更显而易见。 这里的教训是: 当你创造真正的价值时,早期的收购报价是必然的。不要让短期的肯定,把你从长期的伟大目标上拉开。 你不能只看公司今天的估值;你必须想象几年后它会成长成什么样,以及如果你太早把它交出去,那时你会是什么感觉。 掌控自己的命运。 有远见的创始人会在早期就明白这一点。 这也是为什么这一团队正在打造真正“世代级”的公司。 A $3M offer almost wiped out a generational company as it was getting started. Early on, the founders of Whop (a fast growing marketplace where creators sell digital products) were young, excited, and ready to sell to a competitor. That weekend, @cory from Z Fellows called me and said they were hours away from signing and asked if I could talk to them. (Here’s the CEO, Steven, explaining it in a CNBC article.) So we spent a couple of hours on the phone with @cultured , @czoob3 , and @jacksharkey11. I told them that the second you sell, you lose control, and you’ll spend the rest of your lives wondering what if. They listened. Instead of selling, they let Cory and me invest at the same $3M valuation. Today, Whop is on a path to be orders of magnitude more valuable than that early offer. The trajectory is obvious if they keep executing. Here’s the lesson: When you create real value, early offers are inevitable. Don’t let short term validation distract you from long term greatness. You can’t just look at what your company is worth today. You have to imagine what it will become a few years down the road, and how you’ll feel if you give it away too early. Control your own destiny. Visionary founders learn this early. That’s why this team is building something truly generational.Justin Mateen · 2025/12/09