许多人在讨论 AI 对学校教育的影响。我前段时间在一次学校董事会会议上分享了我的一些想法,重点如下: 你永远无法检测学生在作业中是否使用了 AI。就这么简单。 所有“AI 检测工具”在我看来都不起作用,可以被多种方式轻松绕过,而且从原理上注定会失败。你必须默认:只要是课外完成的作业,就有可能使用了 AI。 因此,大部分评分必须转移到课堂内完成的任务(而不是家庭作业),在教师能够实际监控学生的环境中进行。 学生之所以仍会努力学习独立解决问题,是因为他们知道随后在课堂评估中无法依赖 AI。 我们希望学生会使用 AI——它已经成为必然且极其强大的工具——但我们也不希望学生在没有 AI 的情况下完全无助。 可以把它类比为计算器这种曾经颠覆性的技术: 学校依然会教你所有基础运算,让你即使不用计算器也能算。 同时,你也能理解计算器在帮你做什么,这样当它给出错误结果(例如你输入错了“prompt”)时,你能察觉、直觉判断、通过其他方式验证。对 AI 来说,这一点尤为重要,因为 AI 相比计算器,在各种方面仍然更容易犯错。 评估方式将更多取决于老师的选择,包括完全禁用工具、允许使用小抄、开卷、提供 AI 回答供学生分析、或完全开放互联网/AI 等多种形式。 总结(TLDR): 我们的目标是让学生既能熟练使用 AI,也能在没有 AI 的情况下独立存在。 在我看来,实现这一点的唯一方法,就是“翻转课堂”,并将大部分测试转移到课堂内完成。 A number of people are talking about implications of AI to schools. I spoke about some of my thoughts to a school board earlier, some highlights: 1. You will never be able to detect the use of AI in homework. Full stop. All "detectors" of AI imo don't really work, can be defeated in various ways, and are in principle doomed to fail. You have to assume that any work done outside classroom has used AI. 2. Therefore, the majority of grading has to shift to in-class work (instead of at-home assignments), in settings where teachers can physically monitor students. The students remain motivated to learn how to solve problems without AI because they know they will be evaluated without it in class later. 3. We want students to be able to use AI, it is here to stay and it is extremely powerful, but we also don't want students to be naked in the world without it. Using the calculator as an example of a historically disruptive technology, school teaches you how to do all the basic math & arithmetic so that you can in principle do it by hand, even if calculators are pervasive and greatly speed up work in practical settings. In addition, you understand what it's doing for you, so should it give you a wrong answer (e.g. you mistyped "prompt"), you should be able to notice it, gut check it, verify it in some other way, etc. The verification ability is especially important in the case of AI, which is presently a lot more fallible in a great variety of ways compared to calculators. 4. A lot of the evaluation settings remain at teacher's discretion and involve a creative design space of no tools, cheatsheets, open book, provided AI responses, direct internet/AI access, etc. TLDR the goal is that the students are proficient in the use of AI, but can also exist without it, and imo the only way to get there is to flip classes around and move the majority of testing to in class settings.

Andrej KarpathyFounder, Eureka Labs AI

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许多人在讨论 AI 对学校教育的影响。我前段时间在一次学校董事会会议上分享了我的一些想法,重点如下:

你永远无法检测学生在作业中是否使用了 AI。就这么简单。

所有“AI 检测工具”在我看来都不起作用,可以被多种方式轻松绕过,而且从原理上注定会失败。你必须默认:只要是课外完成的作业,就有可能使用了 AI。

因此,大部分评分必须转移到课堂内完成的任务(而不是家庭作业),在教师能够实际监控学生的环境中进行。

学生之所以仍会努力学习独立解决问题,是因为他们知道随后在课堂评估中无法依赖 AI。

我们希望学生会使用 AI——它已经成为必然且极其强大的工具——但我们也不希望学生在没有 AI 的情况下完全无助。

可以把它类比为计算器这种曾经颠覆性的技术:

学校依然会教你所有基础运算,让你即使不用计算器也能算。

同时,你也能理解计算器在帮你做什么,这样当它给出错误结果(例如你输入错了“prompt”)时,你能察觉、直觉判断、通过其他方式验证。对 AI 来说,这一点尤为重要,因为 AI 相比计算器,在各种方面仍然更容易犯错。

评估方式将更多取决于老师的选择,包括完全禁用工具、允许使用小抄、开卷、提供 AI 回答供学生分析、或完全开放互联网/AI 等多种形式。

总结(TLDR):

我们的目标是让学生既能熟练使用 AI,也能在没有 AI 的情况下独立存在。

在我看来,实现这一点的唯一方法,就是“翻转课堂”,并将大部分测试转移到课堂内完成。

A number of people are talking about implications of AI to schools. I spoke about some of my thoughts to a school board earlier, some highlights:

  1. You will never be able to detect the use of AI in homework. Full stop. All "detectors" of AI imo don't really work, can be defeated in various ways, and are in principle doomed to fail. You have to assume that any work done outside classroom has used AI.
  2. Therefore, the majority of grading has to shift to in-class work (instead of at-home assignments), in settings where teachers can physically monitor students. The students remain motivated to learn how to solve problems without AI because they know they will be evaluated without it in class later.
  3. We want students to be able to use AI, it is here to stay and it is extremely powerful, but we also don't want students to be naked in the world without it. Using the calculator as an example of a historically disruptive technology, school teaches you how to do all the basic math & arithmetic so that you can in principle do it by hand, even if calculators are pervasive and greatly speed up work in practical settings. In addition, you understand what it's doing for you, so should it give you a wrong answer (e.g. you mistyped "prompt"), you should be able to notice it, gut check it, verify it in some other way, etc. The verification ability is especially important in the case of AI, which is presently a lot more fallible in a great variety of ways compared to calculators.
  4. A lot of the evaluation settings remain at teacher's discretion and involve a creative design space of no tools, cheatsheets, open book, provided AI responses, direct internet/AI access, etc.

TLDR the goal is that the students are proficient in the use of AI, but can also exist without it, and imo the only way to get there is to flip classes around and move the majority of testing to in class settings.

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