@bobmcgrewai(Palantir、OpenAI 早期成员): “Palantir 和 OpenAI 刚成立时,都被认为是荒谬的想法。” @soleio(Facebook、Figma、Dropbox 早期成员): “我当时就被 Facebook 初创团队的凶猛与野心震惊了。” @seanrose(Slack、Box、Meter 早期成员):“如果一家公司的核心论点充满了非凡的野心,那它大概率值得你关注。” @rsms(Spotify、Figma、Dropbox 早期成员)解释说: “逻辑很简单:如果所有人都说‘这是个好点子’,而你一开始就有一堆直接竞争对手,那你肯定已经来晚了。即使做得再好,也很难对世界产生真正影响。但如果某个人已经穿越探索之海、跨越研究之泥沼,却依旧对某个想法坚持不懈,那说明他们可能比我们看到得更远。” 2. 用“今天的产品”判断未来,是一个陷阱 @soleio 回忆第一次登录 Facebook:“我记得自己很失望。他们描述的版本比我那天看到的东西领先光年。” 同样,Figma 在 Dylan 给我讲述愿景那天,也更像是个原型,而不是产品。 @cjc(Stripe、Notion、Linear 早期员工)有类似观点: “我加入的很多公司做的是开发者产品或团队产品,而我不是开发者,也没有团队场景能真正使用它们。所以这种情况下,我通常会忽略自己对产品的第一印象。” @seanrose 也说:“Slack 最早期的时候真的很粗糙。引用 @stewart 的原话:它就是‘一坨巨大的屎’。2013–2014 的 beta 阶段,愿景已经在那了,但仍需要大量打磨。” 3. 创始人,比一切都重要 @cjc(Stripe、Notion、Linear 早期员工): “创始人(和早期团队)对我来说永远是最重要的。我会努力工作、渴望胜利,但我希望是和那些我也希望看到他们胜利的人一起。当我加入 Stripe 时,其实更多是因为我觉得团队很特别。我对公司的信心反而是在之后才建立的。” @seanrose:“创始人的质量(和真诚)一直是我心中最重要的变量。” @rsms:“人和使命。是谁和为什么(而不是怎么做)。” @bobmcgrewai:“共同特征是:极具野心的目标 + 可靠的团队。” 野心再次出现了。 最后,用 @cjc 的一句总结作为收尾: “如果房地产最重要的三件事是地段、地段、地段,那创业公司最重要的三件事就是:人、人、人。” Three ways a spot a top 1% startup 1. Ambition bordering on “ludicrous” @bobmcgrewai (early Palantir, OpenAI): “Both Palantir and OpenAI were considered ludicrous when the companies were first started." @soleio (early Facebook, Figma, Dropbox): "I was surprised by the ferocity and ambition of the early Facebook team." @seanrose (early Slack, Box, Meter): “If a company’s thesis is marked by extraordinary ambition, it’s probably worth paying attention.” @rsms (early Spotify, Figma, Dropbox) explains: “The logic here is simple: If everyone says, ‘Yes, that’s clearly a great idea, and you have direct competitors on day one, you are definitely late to the game. Even if you excel and go above and beyond expectations, the chance of making a meaningful difference in this world is small-ish. However, if someone has sailed across the sea of exploration, waded through the bog of research, and is still going on about an idea, there’s a small chance that they are ahead of the rest of us and see something I’ve yet to see.” 2. Judging today’s product is a trap @soleio said that when he first logged in to Facebook, “I remember being disappointed. The version their team had described was light-years ahead of what I saw that day.” Likewise, Figma was more prototype than product the day Dylan laid out his vision to me for building a collaborative design platform.” @cjc (early Stripe, Notion, Linear) had a similar perspective: “Many of the companies I’ve joined were developer products or products that were meant for teams, so I couldn’t truly try the product myself, as I’m not a developer or didn’t have a team use case for it. So in general, I discount my own thoughts about a product in those cases.” @seanrose told us that “in the earliest days of Slack, it was rough around the edges. To quote @stewart, it was a "giant piece of shit." The bulk of the vision was there in that beta period from 2013 to 2014, but still awaiting refinement.” 3. Founders, over everything @cjc (early Stripe, Notion, Linear): “The founders (and early team)—nothing matters more than this to me. I’m going to work hard, and I want to win, but I want to do it with people whom I want to see win too. When I joined Stripe, I joined more because I thought the people were special. I had more conviction about the company itself later.” @seanrose (early Slack, Box, Meter): “Quality (and authenticity) of founders have always been the most important variable to me.” @rsms (early Spotify, Figma, Dropbox): “People and mission. Who and why (not as much ‘how’).” @bobmcgrewai (early Palantir, OpenAI): “The common pattern was an incredibly ambitious goal combined with a credible team.” There’s that ambition again. To close, in the words of @cjc: “If the three most important things in real estate are location, location, location, the three most important things in startups are people, people, people.”
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观点原文
@bobmcgrewai(Palantir、OpenAI 早期成员):
“Palantir 和 OpenAI 刚成立时,都被认为是荒谬的想法。”
@soleio(Facebook、Figma、Dropbox 早期成员):
“我当时就被 Facebook 初创团队的凶猛与野心震惊了。”
@seanrose(Slack、Box、Meter 早期成员):“如果一家公司的核心论点充满了非凡的野心,那它大概率值得你关注。”
@rsms(Spotify、Figma、Dropbox 早期成员)解释说:
“逻辑很简单:如果所有人都说‘这是个好点子’,而你一开始就有一堆直接竞争对手,那你肯定已经来晚了。即使做得再好,也很难对世界产生真正影响。但如果某个人已经穿越探索之海、跨越研究之泥沼,却依旧对某个想法坚持不懈,那说明他们可能比我们看到得更远。”
2. 用“今天的产品”判断未来,是一个陷阱
@soleio 回忆第一次登录 Facebook:“我记得自己很失望。他们描述的版本比我那天看到的东西领先光年。” 同样,Figma 在 Dylan 给我讲述愿景那天,也更像是个原型,而不是产品。
@cjc(Stripe、Notion、Linear 早期员工)有类似观点:
“我加入的很多公司做的是开发者产品或团队产品,而我不是开发者,也没有团队场景能真正使用它们。所以这种情况下,我通常会忽略自己对产品的第一印象。”
@seanrose 也说:“Slack 最早期的时候真的很粗糙。引用 @stewart 的原话:它就是‘一坨巨大的屎’。2013–2014 的 beta 阶段,愿景已经在那了,但仍需要大量打磨。”
3. 创始人,比一切都重要
@cjc(Stripe、Notion、Linear 早期员工):
“创始人(和早期团队)对我来说永远是最重要的。我会努力工作、渴望胜利,但我希望是和那些我也希望看到他们胜利的人一起。当我加入 Stripe 时,其实更多是因为我觉得团队很特别。我对公司的信心反而是在之后才建立的。”
@seanrose:“创始人的质量(和真诚)一直是我心中最重要的变量。”
@rsms:“人和使命。是谁和为什么(而不是怎么做)。”
@bobmcgrewai:“共同特征是:极具野心的目标 + 可靠的团队。” 野心再次出现了。
最后,用 @cjc 的一句总结作为收尾:
“如果房地产最重要的三件事是地段、地段、地段,那创业公司最重要的三件事就是:人、人、人。”
Three ways a spot a top 1% startup
1. Ambition bordering on “ludicrous”
@bobmcgrewai (early Palantir, OpenAI): “Both Palantir and OpenAI were considered ludicrous when the companies were first started."
@soleio (early Facebook, Figma, Dropbox): "I was surprised by the ferocity and ambition of the early Facebook team."
@seanrose (early Slack, Box, Meter): “If a company’s thesis is marked by extraordinary ambition, it’s probably worth paying attention.”
@rsms (early Spotify, Figma, Dropbox) explains: “The logic here is simple: If everyone says, ‘Yes, that’s clearly a great idea, and you have direct competitors on day one, you are definitely late to the game. Even if you excel and go above and beyond expectations, the chance of making a meaningful difference in this world is small-ish. However, if someone has sailed across the sea of exploration, waded through the bog of research, and is still going on about an idea, there’s a small chance that they are ahead of the rest of us and see something I’ve yet to see.”
2. Judging today’s product is a trap
@soleio said that when he first logged in to Facebook, “I remember being disappointed. The version their team had described was light-years ahead of what I saw that day.” Likewise, Figma was more prototype than product the day Dylan laid out his vision to me for building a collaborative design platform.”
@cjc (early Stripe, Notion, Linear) had a similar perspective: “Many of the companies I’ve joined were developer products or products that were meant for teams, so I couldn’t truly try the product myself, as I’m not a developer or didn’t have a team use case for it. So in general, I discount my own thoughts about a product in those cases.”
@seanrose told us that “in the earliest days of Slack, it was rough around the edges. To quote
@stewart, it was a "giant piece of shit." The bulk of the vision was there in that beta period from 2013 to 2014, but still awaiting refinement.”
3. Founders, over everything
@cjc (early Stripe, Notion, Linear): “The founders (and early team)—nothing matters more than this to me. I’m going to work hard, and I want to win, but I want to do it with people whom I want to see win too. When I joined Stripe, I joined more because I thought the people were special. I had more conviction about the company itself later.”
@seanrose (early Slack, Box, Meter): “Quality (and authenticity) of founders have always been the most important variable to me.”
@rsms (early Spotify, Figma, Dropbox): “People and mission. Who and why (not as much ‘how’).”
@bobmcgrewai (early Palantir, OpenAI): “The common pattern was an incredibly ambitious goal combined with a credible team.” There’s that ambition again.
To close, in the words of @cjc: “If the three most important things in real estate are location, location, location, the three most important things in startups are people, people, people.”
ABAB AI 解读
如何在公司还小到不起眼时,看出它将改变世界?(深度解读)
这段内容总结了硅谷最顶尖的一群“超级早期发现者”(他们曾加入 Palantir、Facebook、OpenAI、Stripe、Slack、Spotify 等公司最初期团队)对一个问题的回答:
“为什么你们能在公司还看起来很‘烂’的时候,就提前看出它未来会伟大?”
他们给出了三个共同规律:
一、顶级公司往往一开始看起来“荒谬”而不是“合理”
@bobmcgrewai 指出:
Palantir 创立时被认为是“商业版 CIA,不可能成功”
OpenAI 刚成立时被认为是“烧钱研究社团”
这些公司有一个共同点:它们的愿景大到普通人无法理解,也大到传统投资逻辑无法容纳。
@soleio 说:“Facebook 初创团队的野心大到有攻击性。”
@seanrose 说:“非凡野心得公司的确值得关注。”
@rsms 进一步解释逻辑:如果一个想法大家都说“很好”,说明你已经来晚了。因为这种想法毫无门槛、毫无非对称性,也不会产生真正的护城河。
真正的突破型公司往往相反:
- 想法奇怪
- 愿景巨大
- 竞争对手没有
- 普通人不理解
- 只有少数“提前看见未来的人”能看懂
- 这就是“荒诞级野心”的力量。
二、用“今天的产品好不好”判断一家初创公司,是大陷阱
硅谷顶尖早期员工一致认为:伟大公司的早期产品往往是一坨屎。
典型例子:
- Facebook 最初版本远不如团队描述的未来图景
- Figma 刚出现时只是毛坯
- Slack 早期被创始人 Stewart 自嘲为“一坨巨大的屎”
- Stripe、Notion、Linear 的产品早期根本不是为普通用户设计的(外行甚至无法判断)
这里反映的关键洞察是:
- 产品不是判断早期公司未来的指标。
- 创始人的愿景、执行力、迭代速度才是。
你看到的“烂产品”往往只是:
- 技术试验阶段
- 架构尚未稳固
- 商业化没开始
- 用户功能尚未齐备
但如果创始人能:
- 清晰描绘未来
- 每周快速迭代
- 吸引顶尖人才
- 在残缺产品中呈现出“未来的影子”
- 那家公司未来的上限通常极高。
三、创始人是创业公司最核心的变量:比产品、比市场、比技术都重要
所有受访顶尖早期员工都说:“我加入,是因为创始人,而不是产品。”
原因很简单:
✔ 产品会变
✔ 商业模式会变
✔ 市场会变
✔ 但创始人的判断、能量、价值观不会变
@cjc 说得最彻底:“创业公司最重要的是:人、人、人。”
优秀创始人的共同特质:
- 极强的学习能力
- 极强的说服力与吸引力
- 使命感真实而强烈
- 对未来的认知非对称
- 能持续执行 10 年以上
- 在困难阶段依然不动摇
换句话说:强创始人,是伟大公司的“唯一必要条件”。
最后的本质总结:如何识别顶尖 1% 公司?不是看产品,而是看:
1)荒诞级野心
2)未来级愿景(而不是今天的产品)
3)创始人是否是罕见级别的人才密度
或者用一句话总结:好公司让你觉得“这挺不错”。伟大公司让你觉得“这太疯狂,但可能是真的”。
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