我对 Uniswap Labs 提案的担忧如下: 虽然我欣赏 Hayden 和 Uniswap Labs 希望重新将注意力聚焦到 Uniswap 协议本身的努力,而这对他们来说可能确实是正确的方向,但我认为,如果将这套模式更广泛地应用到整个 DeFi 或其他 DAO,其结果并不是最优的。 当一个 DAO 确实需要去中心化决策 时,尤其是对于那些拥有需根据市场变化而动态调整的“活跃参数”的协议(例如 Aave 这类借贷协议),去中心化治理 就成为协议弹性(resiliency)的核心。 弹性正是许多用户和集成方信任 Aave 的主要原因,也是 Aave 成为最受信任的 DeFi 协议之一的原因。Aave DAO 有一套经过预审的、多方参与的流程,确保不会列出垃圾资产,并确保协议不会承担超过其应承担的风险。这一治理方式在多个市场周期中都被证明是有效的——从 FTX 崩盘、Terra Luna 事件,到多轮熊市、最近的“黑色星期五”行情,以及上周 DeFi 市场的事件。 当利益相关者拥有足够的利益绑定(skin in the game)和各自独立的专业能力时,去中心化决策可以运作得非常良好。他们能够验证提案、相互制衡。 其次,真正的弹性还意味着:即便某个利益相关方退出,协议仍应能够存活、继续增长,并为新的利益相关人提供进入的机会。 如果对弹性的需求是真实且强烈的,那么去中心化决策只有在拥有足够多的 独立 利益相关方时才能运作良好。若缺乏独立的利益相关者,就不存在真正的去中心化,也没有弹性;相反,决策会集中化,形成单点故障。 要建立独立性,每个利益相关者都应当作为独立的业务实体运营,拥有自己的愿景、使命与资产负债表。通过让他们都“有赌注”在协议上,可以保持利益一致。 确保“独立性 + 一致性(skin in the game)”的最佳方式,是构建一个要么使用该协议并帮助其扩大市场份额、要么向协议提供服务的业务。这是因为,这种模式在 DAO 内部创造了最资本主义、最具激励一致性的环境。我更看好第一条路径,而非第二条。主要原因是:依赖单一 DAO 的服务型业务难以规模化;服务商通常需要支持多个类似协议,这反而可能引入利益冲突。 我认为,如果一个 DAO 依赖单一的核心实体,其结果将明显低效。这个实体会在协议上获得过多影响力,这会削弱服务提供商之间的竞争,并导致 DAO 的成本上升。如果服务提供商和 Labs 团队不专注于在协议之上构建自己的业务,DAO 就会开始依赖于利益一致性更弱的第三方。这最终可能导致底层协议被商品化(commoditized)。当协议被应用层完全抽象掉之后,如果第三方可以同时支持多个类似产品并自由选择最低成本方案,那么它就没有理由维持与协议的强一致性。相反,若有多个利益相关者在协议之上构建成功业务、真实承担风险,这将形成更强的利益一致性。 有人可能会说,Labs 实体可以简单地为 DAO 构建这些服务。但问题在于,这样的实体无法与在真正市场竞争中运营的公司竞争。这样的模式往往会带来平庸的产品,被那些没有治理负担的中心化团队击败。它会使 Labs 成为依赖资助(grant)和治理流程的组织,降低其在协议生态中作为“获客层(acquisition layer)”的竞争力。相对而言,让利益一致的服务商基于协议构建业务,会带来更大的市场份额、更具竞争力的产品、更高的协议收入、以及更多代币持有者价值。协议的使命应是赋能业务和产品,并追求最高可能的市场份额,而实现这一点的最佳方式,是完全竞争且资本主义的路径。 另一个重要的问题是:为什么 DAO 要主动把自己锁死在依赖单一核心实体的局面,而不是选择与多个团队进行多元化、利益一致的合作?并且,为什么 DAO 要资助产品层(acquisition layer),并承担风险投资式的风险?这个角色应当由服务商或在协议之上构建业务的实体承担,且应由他们使用自己的资产负债表来承担风险。DAO 与协议应主要聚焦在协议开发和费用管理,以确保为代币持有者带来最优结果。 My concerns around the Uniswap Labs proposal: While I appreciate Hayden’s and Uniswap Labs’ commitment to refocusing attention on the Uniswap protocol, and while that may be the right direction for them, I find that the proposal does not lead to the best outcome when applied more broadly across DeFi and other DAOs. When a DAO has a genuine need for decentralized decision making, and this is typically the case for protocols with active parameters that must adjust to changing market conditions, such as lending protocols like Aave, decentralized governance becomes essential for protocol resiliency. Resiliency is the key reason why many users and integrators trust Aave, and why Aave has become one of the most trusted DeFi protocols. The DAO has a pre-vetted, multi-stakeholder process that ensures no junk assets are listed and that the protocol does not take on more risk than it should. This approach has been proven across multiple market cycles, from the FTX crash and Terra Luna to several bear markets, the recent Black Friday, and last week’s events in DeFi. Decentralized decision making can work very well when stakeholders have sufficient skin in the game and distinct expertise, allowing them to validate proposals and keep one another in check. Second, true resiliency also means that if any stakeholder is removed from the equation, the protocol should still survive, continue growing, and create opportunities for new stakeholders to enter. If there is a real need for resiliency, decentralized decision making works only when there are enough independent stakeholders. Without independent stakeholders, there is no real decentralization and no resiliency. Instead, decision making becomes concentrated, creating single points of failure. To establish independence, each stakeholder should operate as its own business, with its own vision, mission, and balance sheet. Alignment can still be maintained by ensuring that all independent stakeholders have skin in the game. The best way to ensure both independence and alignment or skin in the game is to build a business that either uses the protocol and helps scale its market share, or provides services to the protocol. This works because it creates the most capitalistic and incentive aligned scenario within a DAO. I am more bullish on the first path than the second, mainly because it is difficult to scale a business that relies on a single DAO. A service provider would typically need to support multiple similar protocols, which can introduce conflicts of interest. I believe that if a DAO relies on one core entity, the outcome is far less efficient. The entity gains too much influence over the protocol, which reduces competition among service providers and results in higher costs for the DAO. If service providers and labs teams do not focus on building businesses on top of the protocol, the DAO becomes reliant on third parties with weaker alignment. This can lead to the underlying protocol becoming commoditized. If the protocol is fully abstracted away by the application layer, a third party has little reason to care about alignment when it can simply support multiple similar products and choose the lowest cost option. In contrast, having multiple stakeholders building successful businesses on top of a protocol, with real skin in the game, creates far stronger alignment. Some may argue that a labs entity could simply build these services for the DAO. However, in that case, it becomes difficult for such an entity to compete with businesses operating in truly competitive capitalistic markets. This approach would likely result in mediocre products that are outcompeted by centralized teams with fewer governance constraints. It risks turning the labs entity into a grant driven organization with governance overhead, making it a less competitive acquisition layer for the protocol. In contrast, a model where aligned service providers build businesses powered by the protocol leads to higher market share, more competitive products, higher fees for the protocol, and more value for tokenholders. Protocols are meant to power businesses and products and to pursue the highest possible market share, and the best way to achieve that is through a fully competitive and capitalistic approach. Another important point is why the DAO would corner itself into relying on a single core entity when it could instead place diversified and aligned bets with multiple teams. Also, why should the DAO sponsor the acquisition layer and take on venture risk to do so? This role should belong to service providers or entities building businesses on top of the protocol, using their and using their own balance sheet. The DAO and protocol should remain focused primarily on protocol development and fee management to ensure the highest outcome for tokenholders.
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我对 Uniswap Labs 提案的担忧如下:
虽然我欣赏 Hayden 和 Uniswap Labs 希望重新将注意力聚焦到 Uniswap 协议本身的努力,而这对他们来说可能确实是正确的方向,但我认为,如果将这套模式更广泛地应用到整个 DeFi 或其他 DAO,其结果并不是最优的。
当一个 DAO 确实需要去中心化决策 时,尤其是对于那些拥有需根据市场变化而动态调整的“活跃参数”的协议(例如 Aave 这类借贷协议),去中心化治理 就成为协议弹性(resiliency)的核心。
弹性正是许多用户和集成方信任 Aave 的主要原因,也是 Aave 成为最受信任的 DeFi 协议之一的原因。Aave DAO 有一套经过预审的、多方参与的流程,确保不会列出垃圾资产,并确保协议不会承担超过其应承担的风险。这一治理方式在多个市场周期中都被证明是有效的——从 FTX 崩盘、Terra Luna 事件,到多轮熊市、最近的“黑色星期五”行情,以及上周 DeFi 市场的事件。
当利益相关者拥有足够的利益绑定(skin in the game)和各自独立的专业能力时,去中心化决策可以运作得非常良好。他们能够验证提案、相互制衡。
其次,真正的弹性还意味着:即便某个利益相关方退出,协议仍应能够存活、继续增长,并为新的利益相关人提供进入的机会。
如果对弹性的需求是真实且强烈的,那么去中心化决策只有在拥有足够多的 独立 利益相关方时才能运作良好。若缺乏独立的利益相关者,就不存在真正的去中心化,也没有弹性;相反,决策会集中化,形成单点故障。
要建立独立性,每个利益相关者都应当作为独立的业务实体运营,拥有自己的愿景、使命与资产负债表。通过让他们都“有赌注”在协议上,可以保持利益一致。
确保“独立性 + 一致性(skin in the game)”的最佳方式,是构建一个要么使用该协议并帮助其扩大市场份额、要么向协议提供服务的业务。这是因为,这种模式在 DAO 内部创造了最资本主义、最具激励一致性的环境。我更看好第一条路径,而非第二条。主要原因是:依赖单一 DAO 的服务型业务难以规模化;服务商通常需要支持多个类似协议,这反而可能引入利益冲突。
我认为,如果一个 DAO 依赖单一的核心实体,其结果将明显低效。这个实体会在协议上获得过多影响力,这会削弱服务提供商之间的竞争,并导致 DAO 的成本上升。如果服务提供商和 Labs 团队不专注于在协议之上构建自己的业务,DAO 就会开始依赖于利益一致性更弱的第三方。这最终可能导致底层协议被商品化(commoditized)。当协议被应用层完全抽象掉之后,如果第三方可以同时支持多个类似产品并自由选择最低成本方案,那么它就没有理由维持与协议的强一致性。相反,若有多个利益相关者在协议之上构建成功业务、真实承担风险,这将形成更强的利益一致性。
有人可能会说,Labs 实体可以简单地为 DAO 构建这些服务。但问题在于,这样的实体无法与在真正市场竞争中运营的公司竞争。这样的模式往往会带来平庸的产品,被那些没有治理负担的中心化团队击败。它会使 Labs 成为依赖资助(grant)和治理流程的组织,降低其在协议生态中作为“获客层(acquisition layer)”的竞争力。相对而言,让利益一致的服务商基于协议构建业务,会带来更大的市场份额、更具竞争力的产品、更高的协议收入、以及更多代币持有者价值。协议的使命应是赋能业务和产品,并追求最高可能的市场份额,而实现这一点的最佳方式,是完全竞争且资本主义的路径。
另一个重要的问题是:为什么 DAO 要主动把自己锁死在依赖单一核心实体的局面,而不是选择与多个团队进行多元化、利益一致的合作?并且,为什么 DAO 要资助产品层(acquisition layer),并承担风险投资式的风险?这个角色应当由服务商或在协议之上构建业务的实体承担,且应由他们使用自己的资产负债表来承担风险。DAO 与协议应主要聚焦在协议开发和费用管理,以确保为代币持有者带来最优结果。
My concerns around the Uniswap Labs proposal:
While I appreciate Hayden’s and Uniswap Labs’ commitment to refocusing attention on the Uniswap protocol, and while that may be the right direction for them, I find that the proposal does not lead to the best outcome when applied more broadly across DeFi and other DAOs.
When a DAO has a genuine need for decentralized decision making, and this is typically the case for protocols with active parameters that must adjust to changing market conditions, such as lending protocols like Aave, decentralized governance becomes essential for protocol resiliency.
Resiliency is the key reason why many users and integrators trust Aave, and why Aave has become one of the most trusted DeFi protocols. The DAO has a pre-vetted, multi-stakeholder process that ensures no junk assets are listed and that the protocol does not take on more risk than it should. This approach has been proven across multiple market cycles, from the FTX crash and Terra Luna to several bear markets, the recent Black Friday, and last week’s events in DeFi.
Decentralized decision making can work very well when stakeholders have sufficient skin in the game and distinct expertise, allowing them to validate proposals and keep one another in check.
Second, true resiliency also means that if any stakeholder is removed from the equation, the protocol should still survive, continue growing, and create opportunities for new stakeholders to enter.
If there is a real need for resiliency, decentralized decision making works only when there are enough independent stakeholders. Without independent stakeholders, there is no real decentralization and no resiliency. Instead, decision making becomes concentrated, creating single points of failure.
To establish independence, each stakeholder should operate as its own business, with its own vision, mission, and balance sheet. Alignment can still be maintained by ensuring that all independent stakeholders have skin in the game.
The best way to ensure both independence and alignment or skin in the game is to build a business that either uses the protocol and helps scale its market share, or provides services to the protocol. This works because it creates the most capitalistic and incentive aligned scenario within a DAO. I am more bullish on the first path than the second, mainly because it is difficult to scale a business that relies on a single DAO. A service provider would typically need to support multiple similar protocols, which can introduce conflicts of interest.
I believe that if a DAO relies on one core entity, the outcome is far less efficient. The entity gains too much influence over the protocol, which reduces competition among service providers and results in higher costs for the DAO. If service providers and labs teams do not focus on building businesses on top of the protocol, the DAO becomes reliant on third parties with weaker alignment. This can lead to the underlying protocol becoming commoditized. If the protocol is fully abstracted away by the application layer, a third party has little reason to care about alignment when it can simply support multiple similar products and choose the lowest cost option. In contrast, having multiple stakeholders building successful businesses on top of a protocol, with real skin in the game, creates far stronger alignment.
Some may argue that a labs entity could simply build these services for the DAO. However, in that case, it becomes difficult for such an entity to compete with businesses operating in truly competitive capitalistic markets. This approach would likely result in mediocre products that are outcompeted by centralized teams with fewer governance constraints. It risks turning the labs entity into a grant driven organization with governance overhead, making it a less competitive acquisition layer for the protocol. In contrast, a model where aligned service providers build businesses powered by the protocol leads to higher market share, more competitive products, higher fees for the protocol, and more value for tokenholders. Protocols are meant to power businesses and products and to pursue the highest possible market share, and the best way to achieve that is through a fully competitive and capitalistic approach.
Another important point is why the DAO would corner itself into relying on a single core entity when it could instead place diversified and aligned bets with multiple teams. Also, why should the DAO sponsor the acquisition layer and take on venture risk to do so? This role should belong to service providers or entities building businesses on top of the protocol, using their and using their own balance sheet. The DAO and protocol should remain focused primarily on protocol development and fee management to ensure the highest outcome for tokenholders.
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- 经过四年时间,我们终于可以分享这一消息:美国证监会(SEC)已正式结束对 Aave 协议的调查。 这一过程对我们的团队而言付出了巨大的努力和资源,对我个人作为创始人来说亦是如此——我们必须全力保护 Aave、本协议生态,以及更广泛的 DeFi 领域。 过去几年里,DeFi 承受了不公平的监管压力。如今我们很高兴能把这一切放在身后,迈入一个全新的时代:开发者终于可以真正去构建金融的未来。 DeFi 终将胜出。 After four years, we are finally ready to share that the SEC has concluded its investigation into the Aave Protocol. This process demanded significant effort and resources from our team, and from me personally as the founder, to protect Aave, its ecosystem, and DeFi more broadly. DeFi has faced unfair regulatory pressure in recent years. We’re glad to put this behind us as we enter a new era where developers can truly build the future of finance. DeFi will win.Stani.eth · 2025/12/16
- 会议日程安排平台(如 Calendly、Google Calendar 等)应该提供 25 分钟而不是 30 分钟、55 分钟而不是 60 分钟的会议时段,依此类推。 大多数会议最后几分钟往往并没有实际价值,而这些工具内置的时间限制能够帮助人们更自然地结束通话。 在连续会议之间,多出 5 分钟的缓冲时间,会显著提升生产力和整体生活质量。 Meeting-scheduling platforms (Calendly, Google Calendar, etc.) should start offering 25-minute slots instead of 30, 55 instead of 60, and so on. The final few minutes of most meetings rarely add meaningful value, and built-in time limits from these tools make it easier to wrap up calls naturally. That extra 5-minute buffer between back-to-back meetings can make a significant difference in both productivity and overall quality of life.Stani.eth · 2025/12/11
- 英国的“金融促销(Financial Promotions)制度”正在扼杀稳定币: 英国一直宣称希望在加密和金融科技领域成为全球领导者,但它的“金融促销”监管框架正在做着相反的事情。 这个名字听起来像是与广告相关,但实际上它与广告几乎没有关系,而是把最基础的数字货币产品变得极难供英国用户使用。 这一制度本来是为了阻止地铁上那些误导性的加密广告,但如今却把所有加密资产一视同仁——包括稳定币在内,而稳定币本应像数字英镑或数字美元一样稳定,却被当成所有剧烈波动的代币一样监管。 这种看法已经完全过时,也没有认识到稳定币的实际运作方式,或它们在支付、结算和日常金融中正变得多么重要。 由于这种“一刀切”的监管框架,为英国用户构建稳定币产品变得不必要地困难:大量的长问卷、强制 24 小时冷静期,以及各种阻碍,甚至在用户只是想做一个简单的“充值余额”操作之前都会横亘在前。 这让用户体验变得缓慢而笨拙,而本应像使用任何现代金融科技应用一样简单顺畅。同时,它也让英国开发者更难、更昂贵地提供透明、合规且世界级的稳定币产品,更不用说那些内嵌 DeFi 功能的创新产品了。 这一制度不仅没有鼓励创新,反而在主动惩罚创新。 结果完全可以预料: 用户流向海外产品,创业者不愿意在英国构建业务,而英国正在一个它本可以真正领先的领域失去优势。 “金融促销”制度不仅需要微调,它需要的是彻底改革——甚至完全废除,用一个现代、支持创新的监管方式来取代,一个可以分清“投机性交易”与“核心数字金融基础设施”的制度。 如果英国真的想在未来金融中保持领先,它就必须停止亲手阻碍未来的发展。我鼓励整个行业团结起来,推动一个更具理性、更加友好的创新监管框架,否则更多的人才和进步将继续流向别处。 行动的时机,就是现在——再拖就太迟了。 The UK’s Financial Promotions regime is killing stablecoins: The UK keeps saying it wants to lead in crypto and fintech, but its “Financial Promotions” regime is doing the opposite. The name sounds like something about advertising, but, in reality, it has very little to do with adverts and a lot to do with making basic digital money products very difficult to use for UK users. It was meant to stop misleading crypto ads on the tube, but instead it now treats every crypto asset the same, including stablecoins, which are designed to behave like digital pounds or dollars, as if they’re all volatile tokens. That view is out of date and fails to recognise how stablecoins actually work or how essential they’re becoming for payments, settlement and everyday finance. Because of this one-size-fits-all framework, building stablecoin products for UK users has become needlessly difficult. Long questionnaires, mandatory 24-hour cooldown periods and constant friction before a user can do something as simple as topping up a balance. This creates a slow, awkward experience for something that should feel as straightforward as using any modern fintech app. It also makes it far harder and more expensive for UK builders to offer transparent, compliant and world-class stablecoin products with embedded DeFi. Instead of encouraging innovation, the regime actively punishes it. The result is predictable. Users drift toward overseas products, founders hesitate to build in the UK and the UK loses ground in a field where it could genuinely lead. The Financial Promotions regime doesn’t just need minor adjustments. It needs a complete reform, or scrapping altogether, in favour of a modern, innovation-friendly approach that understands the difference between speculative trading and essential digital financial infrastructure. If the UK truly wants to lead in the future of finance, it has to stop holding that future back. And I encourage the entire industry to come together and push for a more sensible, innovation-friendly approach before even more talent and progress move elsewhere. The time to act is now until its too late.Stani.eth · 2025/11/28