关于这个“显示账号来自哪个国家”的功能,我的预测是: 短期内,它会带来很多积极效果。 但 中期来看,更老练的行为者会找到方法伪装成他们并非来自的国家。 租个人护照、手机号、IP 地址等方式多的是。 要伪造 一百万个假定位账号 会有点难度,但要伪造 一个账号的假定位,然后把它养到一百万粉丝,会很容易。 六个月内,那些实际上来自 随机某个欧亚国家、却起名像 “Defend Western Civilization(保卫西方文明)” 的政治水军账号,都会把自己的定位标成 USA 或 UK。 (以上是我认为会发生的事情,不是我所希望发生的。 我所希望的是: (i) 我们能够更透明地看到不同社区的人如何思考不同议题,并且这种透明度 不容易伪造; (ii) 所谓的“社区”标签不只是国家、学历这种狭窄的、容易被伪装的身份凭证,而是更广泛、更复杂,由多维证据共同构成的身份系统。 但我认为,要让这样的系统在对抗性环境中保持稳健,并不容易。) Prediction about this "show which country the account is from" thing: In the short term it will have lots of positive effects. In the medium term, the sophisticated actors will find ways to pretend to be from countries that they are not. Lots of ways to rent individual people's passports, phone numbers, IP addresses, etc. Getting a million accounts with fake location will be medium-hard, getting a single account with fake location, and then getting it to a million followers, will be easy. In six months, the actually-[random Eurasian country]-based political troll accounts with names like "Defend Western Civilization" or whatever will all have "USA" or "UK" as their location tags. (This is what I think will happen, not what I wish. What I wish is (i) we do get more visibility into how people from different communities think about different issues, in a way that is not easy to spoof (ii) the "communities" in question are not just a narrow set of highly legible credentials like countries, university degrees, etc, and are something broader and more emergent and combining evidence from many sources But I think making such a system adversarially robust will not be easy)

Vitalik ButerinCo-founder, Ethereum

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关于这个“显示账号来自哪个国家”的功能,我的预测是:

短期内,它会带来很多积极效果。

但 中期来看,更老练的行为者会找到方法伪装成他们并非来自的国家。

租个人护照、手机号、IP 地址等方式多的是。

要伪造 一百万个假定位账号 会有点难度,但要伪造 一个账号的假定位,然后把它养到一百万粉丝,会很容易。

六个月内,那些实际上来自 随机某个欧亚国家、却起名像 “Defend Western Civilization(保卫西方文明)” 的政治水军账号,都会把自己的定位标成 USA 或 UK。

(以上是我认为会发生的事情,不是我所希望发生的。

我所希望的是:

(i) 我们能够更透明地看到不同社区的人如何思考不同议题,并且这种透明度 不容易伪造;

(ii) 所谓的“社区”标签不只是国家、学历这种狭窄的、容易被伪装的身份凭证,而是更广泛、更复杂,由多维证据共同构成的身份系统。

但我认为,要让这样的系统在对抗性环境中保持稳健,并不容易。)

Prediction about this "show which country the account is from" thing:

In the short term it will have lots of positive effects.

In the medium term, the sophisticated actors will find ways to pretend to be from countries that they are not. Lots of ways to rent individual people's passports, phone numbers, IP addresses, etc. Getting a million accounts with fake location will be medium-hard, getting a single account with fake location, and then getting it to a million followers, will be easy.

In six months, the actually-[random Eurasian country]-based political troll accounts with names like "Defend Western Civilization" or whatever will all have "USA" or "UK" as their location tags.

(This is what I think will happen, not what I wish. What I wish is

(i) we do get more visibility into how people from different communities think about different issues, in a way that is not easy to spoof

(ii) the "communities" in question are not just a narrow set of highly legible credentials like countries, university degrees, etc, and are something broader and more emergent and combining evidence from many sources

But I think making such a system adversarially robust will not be easy)

Vitalik

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