这正是“比特币进入资产负债表”问题的核心所在,也是它为何如此具有争议性的原因。 如果你想在“为什么要持有股票”这件事上获得认知上的清晰性(epistemic clarity),那就必须回到一个最基本的定义: 股权,本应代表一种在压力之下依然存在的、对“价值”的剩余索取权(residual claim)。我说的不是叙事,而是价值本身。 现代股票的问题在于:其账面价值中,商誉(goodwill)所占比例越来越高,正如 Jeff 在这里指出的那样。而当越来越多的价值来自商誉时,这在字面意义上意味着:这些价值只在叙事未被挑战的前提下才存在。 你之所以看到比特币圈的人更容易理解这一点,而传统金融圈(TradFi)却不太能,是因为:我们已经习惯于从“资本索取权”的角度看问题, 而不是把传统股票视为对某个故事能够持续下去的索取权。 这也正是为什么 市盈率(P/E)会变得没有上限:因为分母——盈利——本身就是被叙事塑造的,估值可以在 1 倍、5 倍、100 倍之间随意漂浮,却没有任何锚点。 根本不存在一个不变量的参考坐标。风险本身在真正发生之前,几乎是不可知的。 当讨论比特币财库公司以及 mNAV(市值/净资产值)争论时,情况则完全不同:分母是真实的、流动的、可被观察的。比特币的底层价值,独立于任何管理层讲故事、会计假设或未来预测而存在。 如果比特币是 7×24×365 实时计价的,那就意味着:比特币财库公司是在“本地化”它们的风险。 你不再争论某个“故事”是否配得上一个估值倍数,而是转而讨论: * 资本结构 * 杠杆水平 * 运营效率 * 执行能力 不确定性是显性的,而不是被隐藏起来的。 这并不意味着与比特币相关的股票不会波动,或不会经历回撤;但我的观点是:它们至少是“可读的”(legible)。 在一个越来越由商誉和信心构成的市场中,我宁愿持有一份对真实、可流动价值的剩余索取权,也不愿持有一份对叙事蒸汽的索取权——这种蒸汽,一旦环境变化,就会瞬间消散。 This is the CRUX of the issue when it comes to Bitcoin on the balance sheet, and why it's such a polarizing issue. Want some EPISTEMIC CLARITY when it comes to why you would hold an equity in the first place? An equity is supposed to represent a RESIDUAL CLAIM on VALUE... that survives stress. I'm not talking about narratives, I am talking VALUE. The problem with modern equities is that a growing share of book value is goodwill, which Jeff points out here. So if a growing share of the value is goodwill, that literally means it only exists as long as the narrative remains unchallenged. The reason why you are seeing Bitcoiners get this rather than TradFi is because we are primed to view claims on capital, rather than traditional equities being a claim on simple narrative continuation. And this is why P/E ratios become unbounded, because the denominator is earnings shaped by narrative, and valuation can float from 1x to 5x to 100x without any anchor. There is no invariant reference point at all. Risk itself is totally unknowable until it materializes. When it comes to Bitcoin treasury companies and the mNAV debate, the denominator is real, liquid, and observable. The underlying value of the Bitcoin exists independently of any management storytelling, accounting assumptions, or future projections. So if Bitcoin is marked in real time, 24/7/365, that means that Bitcoin treasury companies LOCALIZE their risk. Instead of arguing about whether a STORY deserves a multiple, you argue about capital structure, leverage, efficiency, execution, etc... the uncertainty is explicit rather than hidden. This doesn't mean Bitcoin-related equities aren't volatile or immune to drawdowns, but my claim is that they are actually legible. In a market increasingly composed of goodwill and confidence, I would rather own a residual claim on tangible, liquid value than on narrative vapor that disappears the moment conditions change.

Adam LivingstonThe Bitcoin Wizard

观点原文

这正是“比特币进入资产负债表”问题的核心所在,也是它为何如此具有争议性的原因。

如果你想在“为什么要持有股票”这件事上获得认知上的清晰性(epistemic clarity),那就必须回到一个最基本的定义:

股权,本应代表一种在压力之下依然存在的、对“价值”的剩余索取权(residual claim)。我说的不是叙事,而是价值本身。

现代股票的问题在于:其账面价值中,商誉(goodwill)所占比例越来越高,正如 Jeff 在这里指出的那样。而当越来越多的价值来自商誉时,这在字面意义上意味着:这些价值只在叙事未被挑战的前提下才存在。

你之所以看到比特币圈的人更容易理解这一点,而传统金融圈(TradFi)却不太能,是因为:我们已经习惯于从“资本索取权”的角度看问题,

而不是把传统股票视为对某个故事能够持续下去的索取权。

这也正是为什么 市盈率(P/E)会变得没有上限:因为分母——盈利——本身就是被叙事塑造的,估值可以在 1 倍、5 倍、100 倍之间随意漂浮,却没有任何锚点。

根本不存在一个不变量的参考坐标。风险本身在真正发生之前,几乎是不可知的。

当讨论比特币财库公司以及 mNAV(市值/净资产值)争论时,情况则完全不同:分母是真实的、流动的、可被观察的。比特币的底层价值,独立于任何管理层讲故事、会计假设或未来预测而存在。

如果比特币是 7×24×365 实时计价的,那就意味着:比特币财库公司是在“本地化”它们的风险。

你不再争论某个“故事”是否配得上一个估值倍数,而是转而讨论:

  • 资本结构
  • 杠杆水平
  • 运营效率
  • 执行能力

不确定性是显性的,而不是被隐藏起来的。

这并不意味着与比特币相关的股票不会波动,或不会经历回撤;但我的观点是:它们至少是“可读的”(legible)。

在一个越来越由商誉和信心构成的市场中,我宁愿持有一份对真实、可流动价值的剩余索取权,也不愿持有一份对叙事蒸汽的索取权——这种蒸汽,一旦环境变化,就会瞬间消散。

This is the CRUX of the issue when it comes to Bitcoin on the balance sheet, and why it's such a polarizing issue.

Want some EPISTEMIC CLARITY when it comes to why you would hold an equity in the first place?

An equity is supposed to represent a RESIDUAL CLAIM on VALUE... that survives stress. I'm not talking about narratives, I am talking VALUE.

The problem with modern equities is that a growing share of book value is goodwill, which Jeff points out here. So if a growing share of the value is goodwill, that literally means it only exists as long as the narrative remains unchallenged.

The reason why you are seeing Bitcoiners get this rather than TradFi is because we are primed to view claims on capital, rather than traditional equities being a claim on simple narrative continuation.

And this is why P/E ratios become unbounded, because the denominator is earnings shaped by narrative, and valuation can float from 1x to 5x to 100x without any anchor.

There is no invariant reference point at all. Risk itself is totally unknowable until it materializes.

When it comes to Bitcoin treasury companies and the mNAV debate, the denominator is real, liquid, and observable. The underlying value of the Bitcoin exists independently of any management storytelling, accounting assumptions, or future projections.

So if Bitcoin is marked in real time, 24/7/365, that means that Bitcoin treasury companies LOCALIZE their risk.

Instead of arguing about whether a STORY deserves a multiple, you argue about capital structure, leverage, efficiency, execution, etc... the uncertainty is explicit rather than hidden.

This doesn't mean Bitcoin-related equities aren't volatile or immune to drawdowns, but my claim is that they are actually legible.

In a market increasingly composed of goodwill and confidence, I would rather own a residual claim on tangible, liquid value than on narrative vapor that disappears the moment conditions change.

ABAB AI 解读

1️⃣ 作者在重新定义“股票到底是什么”

股票本质不是故事

而是:在极端情况下,仍然成立的“剩余索取权”

关键不在增长,而在:压力下还能不能剩下“价值”

2️⃣ 对现代股票的核心批评:商誉太多

  • 商誉 ≠ 现金
  • 商誉 ≠ 可清算资产

商誉 = 收购溢价,品牌叙事,市场信心

叙事一旦被挑战 → 价值直接蒸发

3️⃣ 为什么 P/E 会“失去锚点”

  • 盈利本身被叙事塑造
  • 估值倍数不再受约束
  • 可以从 5 倍跳到 100 倍

因为:没有不可动摇的参照物

4️⃣ 传统金融与比特币思维的根本差异

TradFi 更习惯:相信叙事能延续

比特币思维更关注:对“资本本身”的索取权

一个是故事驱动

一个是资产驱动

5️⃣ 比特币财库公司的关键优势:分母是比特币

比特币是:

  • 实时定价
  • 高流动性
  • 与管理层无关
  • 不靠会计技巧
  • 不靠未来预测

6️⃣ “风险被本地化”是什么意思

风险不藏在:

  • 商誉
  • 预测
  • 模糊叙事

而是直接体现在:

  • 价格
  • 杠杆
  • 资本结构
  • 看得见
  • 算得清

7️⃣ 作者不是说“比特币相关股票更安全”

  • 波动依然存在
  • 回撤依然会发生

但问题是:你知道自己在承担什么风险

8️⃣ 核心价值判断

在一个由信心与商誉主导的市场里,“可被清算、可被定价、独立于叙事存在的价值”,正在变得稀缺。

9️⃣ 一句话总结

作者宁愿持有“看得见价格的真实资产风险”,也不愿持有“只在故事成立时才存在的价值”。

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